Approved:  March 2, 2006   

Minutes of the House Health and Services Committee

The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chair Peggy Mast at 1:30 P.M. on March 1, 2006, in Room 526-S of the Capitol.

 All members were present except Representatives Watkins, Kelley, Kilpatrick, Morrison, Landwehr, and Kirk, all of whom were excused.

Committee staff present:

Melissa Calderwood, Kansas Legislative Research Department
Mary Galligan, Kansas Legislative Research Department
Renae Jefferies, Revisor of Statutes= Office
Gary Deeter, Committee Secretary

Conferees appearing before the committee:

David Searle, Director, Pharmacy Development, Pfizer
Carmen Catizone, Executive Director, National Association of Boards of PharmacyDebra Billingsley, Executive Secretary, Kansas State Board of Pharmacy
Kevin Nicholson, Vice President of Pharmacy Regulatory Affairs, National Association of Chain Drug Stores
David Gonzales, Director, State Government Affairs, Healthcare Distribution Management Association

Others attending:

See attached list (not available on electronic copy). 

The Chair opened the hearing on HB 2820 and noted a previous hearing on a similar bill, HB 2397, which hearing was on 2-7.

David Searle, Director, Pharmacy Development, Pfizer, testified as a proponent for the proposed legislation.  (Attachment 1)   He related the dangers of counterfeit drugs, noting the need to regulate the secondary market by defining normal distribution and creating a pedigree or footprint to trace each drug through the distribution system.  He listed the advantages of the bill, saying that it safeguards the state’s drug supply through the Kansas Board of Pharmacy, whose licensing and background checks will better protect Kansas citizens.

Carmen Catizone, Executive Director, National Association of Boards of Pharmacy, testified in favor of the bill, noting that the NABP is an independent, impartial association that assists state boards to develop and implement uniform standards. (Attachment 2) and (Attachment 3)  Noting that about 15 states have similar legislation, he cited evidence to show that the present tracking is inadequate, but that the present bill has safeguards to prevent Kansas from becoming a haven for unscrupulous wholesalers.

Patrick Hubbell, representing PhRMA, offered written testimony in support of the bill.  (Attachment 4)

Debra Billingsley, Executive Secretary, Kansas State Board of Pharmacy, speaking as a neutral party, delineated various concerns expressed by the Board.   (Attachment 5)   She estimated each pharmacy would expend $10,000 to implement electronic tracking; she said some definitions are confusing or conflict with present statutes or regulations; she commented that the cost of background checks and inspections could be onerous if not passed on to distributors; and she said the mandates are unrealistic.  She noted that the Board is in agreement with the theory of the bill, but is reluctant to implement it at the present time.
 
Kevin Nicholson, Vice President of Pharmacy Regulatory Affairs, National Association of Chain Drug Stores, spoke as opponent to the bill (Attachment 6) and suggested amendments that he said would make the bill more acceptable.  (Attachment 7)  He noted that the present bill contains various inaccuracies and that because of continued changes at the federal level and in a number of states, counterfeit drug cases in 2005 fell to nearly half the number in 2004.   He explained that by 2010 an effective tracking system will become common—the RFID, or radio-frequency identification, an electronic chip that will provide a complete pedigree for each prescription bottle.  He asked the committee to delay action on what he called a premature bill.

David Gonzales, Director, State Government Affairs, Healthcare Distribution Management Association, testified in opposition to the bill.  He said his colleague, Dan Bellingham, gave testimony opposing a similar bill (HB 2397) on February 7, testimony which he said applied to this bill as well.  He cited two problems with the bill:  First, the licensing requirements are onerous, and, second, the pedigree requirements unnecessarily restrict a wholesaler’s ability to serve its customers.  Noting that the ideal pedigree will be RFID, he said 90% of drugs are easily tracked because they follow the normal distribution chain.  However, 10% of drugs are purchased outside that chain when a wholesaler does not buy directly from a manufacturer; the bill makes tracking that 10% becomes unnecessarily restrictive.
 
A fiscal note was provided for committee members.  (Attachment 7)

Members posed questions to conferees.  Ms. Billingsley said the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) began but never completed a pedigree system.  Mr. Catizone  explained that the FDA does not have resources to oversee drug tracking, since licensing rests with the states, observing that if 1% of drugs were counterfeited, that would total 35 million prescriptions, a Herculean task to regulate.  Ms. Billingsley said that the Board of Pharmacy regulates wholesalers intrastate and requests inspections from resident states for out-of-state wholesalers.  Mr. Catizone said the patchwork of regulations is disappearing as more states impose stricter tracking statutes.  Mr. Gonzales stated that his association has offered a federal model for licensing to the FDA.  Mr. Catizone added that the tracking process can be implemented, but not yet at the unit level.  A member commented that at present Kansas regulates puppy mills more stringently than it does prescription drugs.   Mr. Catizone said Indiana has implemented an effective drug-tracking system paid for by manufacturer and wholesaler fees.  A member expressed concern that wholesalers would simply pass on these fees to retailers.

The Chair closed the hearing.

The minutes for February 21, 2006, were approved.

Staff Mary Galligan briefed the committee on HB 2813.  She said the bill repeals one section of the nurse practice act which allows a nurse to practice up to 120 days pending receipt of the results of his/her licensing examination.

Staff Melissa Calderwood explained two similar bills, HB 2852  and HB 2853, both of which create new law requiring the State Board of Nursing to require fingerprinting and criminal history record checks before licensing nurses, practical nurses, and mental health technicians.  She noted that in both bills there is no language directing the deposit of funds into the state treasury nor does the bill specify how the funds would be generated.  The bill assumes but does not state that the Board will increase license fees for applicants.

The meeting was adjourned at 2:54 p.m.  The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, March 2, 2006.